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Thought prohibition reduces cases of drunk driving? Study concludes people drive a great distance to drink & drive back drunk

Submitted by maltmarch on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:52pm. ::




What are the popular tourist destinations for Gujaratis to go by road - prohibition free Mt. Abu, Daman & Diu and oddly enough - Saputara in Gujarat, which is on the border with Maharashtra so the bars are only a stone-throw away.   One hears of tourists, truck drivers, train passengers tanking up on their intake of alcohol before coming back to Gujarat (remember the time when airlines served alcohol on board, the rumor has it that they stopped because many passengers got drunk on the return flight to Gujarat).  While no statistics are readily available for Gujarat in terms of prohibitions' effect on drunk driving, a study of about 39,000 alcohol-related traffic accidents in the US state of Kentucky (between 1991 & 1997) found that residents of dry counties are more likely to be involved in such crashes, possibly because they have to drive farther from their homes to consume alcohol, thus increasing impaired driving exposure. The study concludes that county-level prohibition is not necessarily effective in improving highway safety.  For Gujarat, I would add that driving further to drink holds true just like it does in Kentucky - not to other counties but to farms, club houses, dhabas, highways, etc. where its a known fact the residents of cities in Gujarat escape to for "drinks", only to drive back much further in a dangerously intoxicated state.

Let's Stop Cheating the Mahatma.

Submitted by abhishek on Tue, 01/16/2007 - 5:43pm. ::

Gujarat is the land of Gandhiji. We are proud he was born here and lived here to become the Father of the Nation.


Gujarat is also the land of prohibition. A concept preached by the Mahatma.


But, how does Prohibition perform today?

Liquor free tourism strategy: "Jal Jeera can attract tourists from around the world"

Submitted by Peter Scot on Wed, 01/10/2007 - 10:59am. ::

Click here to read the article "Liquor-free state tourism dept's new mantra" in Times of India

Lets have a some "Jal Jeera Shots". Bottoms up and let that fart out!

It hasn't happened until now, so what makes these idiots think people from around the world will drop into Gujarat to have some "chhas" and "bajri nu rotlu"? This article quotes the head of Tourism Corporation of Gujarat saying "A vast range of vegetarian food and non-alcoholic drinks ranging from butter milk to €˜jaljira' and mango juice can attract tourists from across the world". How did this guy become the head of tourism department of a state with 50 million people, he's not competent to run a restaurant if he's going to stick to Jaljira and butter milk". People don't go to Israel to have kosher food even though it stands a heck of a lot more chance than the fart-relieving jaljeera.  Gujarat, as a destination, doesn't stand a chance to attract anyone to come here with such a thoughtless tourism agenda.

Quote martial !! Bottoms Up !

Submitted by kiran on Sun, 01/07/2007 - 6:29pm. ::

"No nation is drunken where wine is cheap,
and none sober where the dearness of wine substitutes
ardent spirits as the common beverage.
Wine brightens the life and thinking of anyone."
Thomas Jefferson, 1800s

TV Report from 1933 in the USA - Industry Booms after Repeal of Prohibition

Submitted by maltmarch on Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:03pm. ::


Gandhianism as a religion

Submitted by Peter Scot on Fri, 01/05/2007 - 1:36am. ::

Gandhi was an individual, so was Mohammad, Allah, Buddha, Mahaveer, Jesus.... some of the individuals who have been credited with starting a religion... Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc. Yet, Gandhi's distinction comes from being one of the few to have earned the "ism" after his name in the 20th century. I hesitate to name the others but suffice it to say that the human race had enough collective wisdom to realize by then that "gods" were capable of making mistakes and did so, and were not "complete" and perfect, something for which we pay the price in every religion.

Gandhi was, indeed, a great human being - and the world is a better place for he lived in it. Yet, are Gandhians ever capable of being as great or even aspiring to be as great as him if they don't have the freedom to question him? Are all muslims capable of being as intelligent and wise as the prophet Mohammed himself, if they must live by the strict codes Mohammed preached? Are all Jains deserving of putting themselves on the same pedestal as Mahaveer without going through the self-discovery he did? If not, aren't we merely relegating ourselves to the level of blind followers if we don't have the freedom to reason with their choices? After all, how many muslims you know following buddhism and how many gujaratis you know following Christianity? I, for one, know none, but I do know everyone claims their religious to be the most noble. Almost all follow what we are born into, and you and I very well could have been born black, brown, christian, buddist or a nomad (or an animal for that matter). Wouldn't any of these intellectuals have been strongly against blind faith, which denies the precious human liberty to reason and freedom to choose? It is my opinion that religious heads were leaders who understood, in the absence of law and order, that the only way to unite humankind is to play on their conscience... aka sin. But Gandhi was on a threshold - he saw law and order, and I add freedom, within grasp but not given, so with the goodness of his heart he set about to unite all the different flavors, religions and colors of his motherland - India and set about to capture that freedom from the oppressor and share with the rest of his kin.

Video on Prohibition Propaganda

Submitted by maltmarch on Fri, 01/05/2007 - 12:37am. ::

Prohibition Propaganda - Advertisement. Prohibition and Excise, Government of Gujarat
Home Department - Government of Gujarat -
34 sec - May 18, 2006
Prohibition is not only our requirement, it is also our responsibility. Intimate us about illegal activities in state of Gujarat.
Home Department, Government of Gujarat -
26 sec - May 18, 2006

Good luck!

CM relaxes prohibtion laws in SEZ's for "outsiders"

Submitted by maltmarch on Wed, 01/03/2007 - 2:10am. ::

My first reaction to hearing our Government's new policy (relaxation of€¦) was positive.  I was told that our CM announced "relaxation of prohibition policy" in special economic zones (SEZ's). I felt admiration for the Govt. for taking this progressive step, until I was told in simple words that "only outsiders and permit holders living in SEZ's will be able to drink, not the residents like you and I". Immediately, the picture that appeared in my head was of the British Clubs in India that carried the sign "Dogs and Indians not allowed" (one of these clubs even survived almost a decade after we got independence). While I do give some credit to our Government for taking this step in speeding the inevitable removal of prohibition, I feel this is narrow-sighted and undemocratic decision, which isn't even going to "lure" any investors into the state. 

Gujarat: a state of denial

Submitted by maltmarch on Sun, 12/24/2006 - 11:57am. ::

Gujarat is a safe place (or so they claim) - and some attribute it to the lack of alcohol.  Of course, the fact that its also got the highest cases of illicit liquor deaths, police bribes for alcohol, 5th highest per capita criminal cases recorded in the country, etc. is ignored nd alcohol is automatically associated with crime (we should be reminded that, in some countries, women not covered head to toe are considered a "bait" for instigating crime?  The same countries also have a ban on alcohol.  Is that the kind of society we aspire to be?).  Alcohol, almost the world over, is considered a drink of merriment.  Isn't it time for Gujarat to have an attitude check?  Take economics. A pro-prohibitionist may argue the Rs. 2500 crore that goes into the underworld can be blocked and brought about into legal channel through rural & women empowerment, education,  etc. - and the

Is there is corelation between crime rate and prohibition?

Submitted by maltmarch on Fri, 12/22/2006 - 1:51pm. ::

Most of the pro-prohibition people I meet say prohibition is good because it keeps Gujarat crime free (ironically, many people have told me this while carrying a drink in their hand). That argument couldn't be more false. Here's a statistical analysis on states with highest crime rates- from this story. Its interesting to note that the beer & whisky guzzling, fun loving Punjabis have the lowest crime rate (per capita) in the country - in spite of Punjab's terrorism-tainted past. The figures below are from 2000, pre-Godhra incident and population figures are from the sensex. As the statistics below prove, prohibition does not lower crime. Cheers to that! (scroll down to view the statistics or download file)

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